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Dear reader,

If you thought the unnamed narrator of Rebecca gave us a lot to talk about, she had nothing on Humbert Humbert, the narrator of this week’s book, Lolita.

The story has courted controversy since the beginning, being passed over repeatedly by publishers before being banned on its eventual publication by many countries, including the UK.

As I said on the show, the protagonist is a child abuser, a rapist, a murderer, a liar, the subject matter is extremely disturbing – and yet Vladimir Nabokov’s novel is also regarded as a masterpiece of postmodern literature.

We’ve read so many brilliant books in our time recording the podcast and I’ve always been a voracious reader, so it’s with consideration that I made my claim in this episode that this is the most beautifully written book in the entire English language.

But I know the subject matter isn’t for everybody. That tension – between the style and the subject – has been part of the story of Lolita from the day it was published, and people often feel very strongly about it, which is completely understandable.

It may be a novel that you’ve never considered picking up, but I hope that after our discussions you might reconsider, if only so you can email us and let us know your thoughts.

Our inbox is filled with literary analysis and debate and I have no doubt that this week it will be as busy as ever. Email [email protected] and we’ll share some of the best letters next week. Especially from fellow synesthetes who want to discuss what colour the story is…

Below, you’ll find our usual Book Club Notes from Rhiannon to help guide you through a conversation with friends or to shape your book club. Whatever your feelings about this novel, you’ll likely want to unpick them with someone.

We also have reading recommendations, polls and your excellent correspondence about Daphne du Maurier’s Rebecca.

You’ll find this edition of our newsletter is somewhat longer than usual because we had so many Rebecca notes and reviews to feature.

Until next time,

Tabby

If you enjoyed Lolita

Some more recommendations for your list:

📚 Speak, Memory by Vladimir Nabokov – The author’s autobiography offers an insight into his fascinating life and the ways it shaped his work.

📚 The Enchanter by Vladimir Nabokov – Described by the author as “the first little throb of Lolita”, this novella is a great companion read if you’re a fan of the later story.

📚 American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis – Tabby mentioned that she was reading this in tandem with Lolita. They make for an interesting pairing, with horrific acts narrated by an unreliable narrator. Our episode on American Psycho is coming up soon.

📽 Lolita (1962) – Stanley Kubrick’s adaptation of the novel stars James Mason and Peter Sellers.

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Notes on… Lolita

Was Dominic and Tabby’s enthusiasm for Nabokov’s novel enough to convince you to suggest it to a book group or some literary friends? Our presenters said they could have spent hours examining the opening scene alone, so there’s no doubt any group exploration of Lolita could be lively – and lengthy. Here are some talking points to help you on your way.

“I've read it twice. And the second time that I read it, as soon as I finished, I thought, ‘God, I cannot wait to read this again,’” said Dominic. “There's something new in every line and every paragraph. There are so many puzzles and mysteries and so many rabbit holes to fall down. It's like the greatest crossword puzzle you've ever done.”

  • Dominic and Tabby were effusive in their praise and Lolita is often ranked one of the best novels of the 20th century – do you think it deserves its place on those lists? Why?

  • It was banned in Britain and France on publication, and to this day is not allowed in some American school districts. Is this position ever justified? What, if anything, do you think should lead to a book being banned?

  • Many readers will have been put off by Lolita’s controversial reputation. If you picked it up for the first time, how did it differ from your expectations?

“This will sound odd to people who haven't read it and are horrified by the subject matter, but the abiding thing, I think, is the style, because it's the style that defines it,” said Dominic.

  • “All my stories are webs of style… For me, style is matter,” Nabokov stated. He also famously said: “For me, a work of fiction exists only insofar as it affords me what I shall bluntly call aesthetic bliss.” What do you think he means by these comments? And how could you see this vision reflected in Lolita?

  • In her 1958 review, Elizabeth Janeway, a critic from The New York Times, wrote: “The first time I read Lolita I thought it was one of the funniest books I’d ever come on. The second time I read it, uncut, I thought it was one of the saddest.” Robert Kirsch, in the Los Angeles Times that same year, called Lolita “a small masterpiece, an almost perfect comic novel.” How would you respond to these reviews?

  • For all the beauty in Nabokov’s writing, the author is known for his cruelty too. Critic Ronald Hingley said the book “secretes about as much milk of human kindness as a cornered black mamba”. Where did you sense the cruelty in the writing? Were there certain passages that stood out for their sudden sharpness?

  • There are several theories about the inspiration for Lolita, but for his part, Nabokov cited “a newspaper story about an ape in the Jardin des Plantes, who, after months of coaxing by a scientist, produced the first drawing ever charcoaled by an animal: this sketch showed the bars of the poor creature's cage.” Which character do you think Nabokov was referring to here - Humbert or Lolita?

“Humbert is never fixed,” says Tabby. “He seems out of place as an émigré, wherever he is. People can't pin him down… He's always playing different parts. Lodger, lover, stepfather, adoring father… And then his name, we actually learn that's an alias because it keeps shifting too.”

  • Humbert Humbert is one of the most famous unreliable narrators in literature, leading to a debate between the presenters (as well as decades of readers) as to what is real in Lolita. What do you believe really happened?

  • The book is full of Easter eggs and puzzles, some of which Nabokov himself listed in an afterword, calling them “secret points”. What wordplay, codes and puzzles did you spot? How did you unlock them?

  • “Humbert, we know from the beginning, he's consciously spinning us a story,” says Dominic. “But who are we? So he calls us at first, ‘Ladies and gentlemen of the jury’, and then he has various spins on that… At one point, he calls us Miranda [possibly referencing The Tempest].” What – in combination with the fake foreword by John Ray Jr – did you make of this? Who is he addressing?

“He's a paedophile and a rapist, so by laughing at him, by being delighted by the book and enthralled by it and by enjoying his riddles and intellectual turn of phrase, are we complicit in his crimes?” asked Tabby.

  • Did enjoying Lolita make you feel complicit in its terrible subject matter and Humbert’s crimes? Once you had finished reading, what feelings lingered?

  • One publisher commented that: “We would all go to jail if the thing were published”. The book’s first publisher was one known mainly for avant-garde and erotic fiction, “Hence the reputation Lolita has for being pornographic, which, by the way, it absolutely is not,” said Tabby. Does this story have an unfairly-gained reputation?

  • The book has received harsh criticism, especially from feminist readers, particularly in its portrayal of Lolita. As Tabby said: “She's a 12-year-old girl, but she is constantly objectified. And it's not just that she's objectified. The things that make her a little girl are objectified. Her little girl knees, the down on her arms, all the things that prepubescent girls have, that's what he finds so alluring and romanticises.” What did you think about the way Lolita is portrayed? How did the description of her childlike features and mannerisms drive the plot?

The quote that says it all

“You can always count on a murderer for a fancy prose style.”

Demonstrating at once the charm and humour of Humbert, the knowing style of the novel and that constant interplay between the narrator and his audience. But what quote stayed with you after you finished? Email and let us know.

Who should you give this to?

A fan of cryptic crosswords? Someone who enjoys a challenging read? Perhaps a literature lover who has so far avoided Nabokov’s text because they’ve been put off by its subject?

Tell us, who would you share this with?

We love featuring your suggestions here to share with fellow Book Notes members. Last week, Tabby asked which books you wished you could read for the first time again. Here’s what you said…

  • Debara wrote: “The Lymond Chronicles would be my first choice. Some of the most finger-biting events occur throughout the series. The best villain ever appears in two of the books and looms heavily in the last two books. If one is into character torture, these are the books to read.”

  • “I wish I could read Bleak House for the first time again,” said Barbara. “Esther's search for her mother, complete with one of the first British private detective characters in fiction (is that right?) was completely absorbing!”

  • For Jean, it has to be Pride and Prejudice. “It was such a lovely discovery for me. I loved the slow awakening to the feelings between Darcy and Elizabeth. Loved it.”

  • Nick says it’s Shakespeare’s Macbeth, for an interesting reason. “A friend of mine took a student production on tour to Kenya to audiences totally unfamiliar with Shakespeare who were as genuinely shocked as Macbeth by the unravelling of the witches’ prophecies, gasping and exclaiming loudly as Burnham Wood came to Dunsinane, or Macduff announced he was ‘from his mother’s womb untimely ripped’. As a probably typical middle class westerner it is just not possible to come to such texts untainted by prior knowledge and tedious, read-around-the class teaching that reduces the play to plodding exposition.”

  • “Earlier this year, I revisited one of my favourite Agatha Christie adventures, The Man in the Brown Suit which, first time around aged 12, fulfilled my blossoming romantic curiosity,” writes Louise. “This time however, at I guess the far more cynical age of 54, I found the romance occurred quite implausibly (even with my mind set to 1920s expectations). I wish I could have read it with that same youthful naivety that caused it to remain in my head all those years as a sweetly innocent romantic adventure. It saddened me to think that experience overtakes innocence.”

Reviewers’ corner

We look forward to reading your thoughts on Lolita. Write in to [email protected] with ‘review’ in the subject line and tell us…

  • Did you agree with us about the supremacy of Nabokov’s writing?

  • Where do you think the truth of the story lies, can we ever know and really, does it matter?

Rebecca has long been one of our most requested books so were were prepared for a lot of emails and reviews – but you really blew us away.

Your polls

When it comes to whether you love an unreliable narrator, the response was overwhelmingly YES, with 81% of the votes.

Some of you admitted you had never seen the new Mrs de Winter this way and are now viewing the book in a whole new light. As Mick said: “Unreliable narrators allow you to re-read books adopting a different perspective each time!”

Lisa said unreliable narrators provide a “better insight into the author's themes”. “One of my favourite examples is Dennis Lehane's Shutter Island. Another more recent example is Natalie Heller Mills in [Caro Claire Burke’s]Yesteryear. Granted, the insight only comes after finishing the novel.”

Kristie wrote in with a counterview. “I'm too gullible when I read (but not in real life) and then am mad at myself for not being smart enough to have seen what was going on in such a book,” she said. “However, I loved Herman Koch's The Dinner.”

When it came to scoring, 40% of you awarded Rebecca 9/10. A considerable number of you opted for 10/10.

Touchingly, J Crump said: “As a 'senior citizen' (I like 'elder,' these days), I was delighted a couple of years ago to revisit Rebecca with a high schooler. She was enchanted; absolutely in love with it. We even watched the movie version after finishing the book. It's always so rewarding to see a young person fall in love with a classic.”

Maggie said the novel deserved 10/10 and added: “Rebecca was the first book I stayed up really late reading because I couldn't put it down, aged about 12. Since then it has remained one of my favourites and I've read it several times. The atmosphere is perfectly captured in the writing – the red rhododendrons somehow seeming oppressive and sinister in spite of their beauty; the wild Cornish coast; the old house with its secrets.”

And finally, Rosie wrote in to say: “If you haven’t seen the That Mitchell and Webb Look sketch about Rebecca, please go and watch it immediately, it’s hilarious!”

From dream to nightmare

Kaye answered our call asking who she’d recommend Rebecca to. “Any young girl who romantically still thinks the dream is to marry a dark and brooding rich man, then live a life of idle luxury,” she says.

“When I re-read Rebecca I kept thinking the other nightmare for the narrator, apart from Mrs Danvers, was how meaningless and lonely her life would be.”

Rebecca re-reads

Thank you to the very large number of you who wrote in to say you re-read Rebecca because of the podcast.

Claire said that, 20 years on, the comparisons with Jane Eyre really struck her: “It's not just the big house that burns down, or the scary females, or the jealousy, it's the men! Emotionally damaged by their disloyal wives, they somehow manage to get these women to overlook the misogyny and say yes!

“Of all the terrible marriage proposals in literature, Maxim de Winter's proposal was second only to Edward Rochester's to Jane Eyre. Rochester: ‘You--poor and obscure, and small and plain as you are--I entreat to accept me as a husband.’ (She really should have slapped him hard, preferably with a sizeable piece of timber.) Maxim: ‘I'm asking you to marry me, you little fool.’ (She should have thrown the marmalade at his face.)”

Heather writes: “I’ve read the book multiple times, but every time, there is a point in the story at which I become fully gripped and can’t put it down – around the time of the fancy dress ball incident. The pace and the horror and the sense of isolation becomes so overwhelming at that point.” She continues: “I’m hoping to share Rebecca with my daughter one day, when I can wean her away from her current Hunger Games and Percy Jackson reading list. I think she’ll love it, as she loves a murder mystery.”

It doesn’t always work out though. As Sharon told us: “When I first read this as a naive socially awkward 20-year-old I really felt engaged with and identified with the narrator. (I too would have swept up the broken ornament and put it in an envelope!) However, rereading it 43 years later from the perspective of a mature woman who has had a demanding career I found the narrator's timidity very irritating. Whilst my younger self lapped up the Gothic creepiness this time round I found it far too melodramatic.”

And good luck to Ian, and his third venture into the book. “I loved Rebecca the first time I read it,” he said. “However, on a second read, a holiday somewhere hot long ago, I remember growing distinctly aware of being tricked or falling into something too clever for me to grasp, possibly something unpleasant. I definitely didn’t like the narrator or Maxim anymore, but then if they were the baddies…who was left that was good? Surely not Mrs Danvers. I was lost. At the time, an old aunt assured me that I was reading far too much into it.

“Now, thanks to you two, all these years later I’m up and running again. And it’s even trickier than I’d ever imagined. Am off to dig out my old scruffy paperback and enjoy it all over again.”

Otherworldly…

Many of us will relate to Teresa’s first impressions. She shared: “A family friend who loves reading as much as I do gave me Rebecca as a present when I was 16. I remember being so entranced during a break in school that I almost missed a class.

“What I truly love about this book is how atmospheric it is. The way that I approach reading is as if I am entering a completely new universe, one which I do not know the rules and anything is possible. For most of the book, Daphne du Maurier had me wondering whether ghosts were real and Rebecca had been haunting the narrator (and everyone else, me included) all along.”

No substance

In our Book Notes last week, we wondered why our narrator is never named, Louise wrote in to suggest it is to “reflect the stark contrast between Rebecca's overwhelming presence in the book, and the narrator's lack of substance. The narrator is portrayed as lacking in self-esteem and self-confidence, whereas Rebbeca is portrayed as a beautiful and enchanting wife and hostess. At the end, when Maxim declares his love for the narrator, it almost doesn't ring true and I'm not sure the narrator herself really believes it.”

Unreliably unreliable

On that note, we’re fascinated by this reading from Victoria, who says: “I think ‘unreliable narrator’ is too blunt a description. She isn't necessarily trying to mislead us. She is a person who has become unreliable to herself. Her perception has been distorted by shame, insecurity and comparison. The distinction seems crucial to me.

“There is also something wonderfully circular about this. The more she tries to become Rebecca rather than herself, the less capable she becomes of simply being herself. She becomes increasingly anxious, childlike and prone to mistakes. At the beginning I felt enormous sympathy for her because the shame she experiences is so painfully recognisable. But as the novel progresses, I found myself questioning her judgement too: how much of the world she experiences is actually happening, and how much has been created by the story she is telling herself?”

Class struggles

Laurie was driven to write in to discuss their thoughts on a new perspective they gained on a recent re-read. “I realised that Maxim's class also plays significantly into his misery,” they wrote. “While being a wealthy landowning member of the upper class certainly affords him great privileges, his desire to maintain that effortlessly perfect upper class facade at Manderley ultimately trapped him in a marriage to a woman he hates. He was willing to sacrifice his own happiness for Manderley's reputation, but was social capital really worth it in the end? I wonder if, on some level, Maxim realised that himself, as once he is rid of Rebecca he shows no interest in turning Manderley back into what it was when Rebecca was alive. He seems to despise the silly neighbours who stop by Manderley throughout the novel, and doesn't play much of a role in the upper class social scene. Combined with the narrator's struggle to fit in and Mrs. Danvers’ obsession with Rebecca and how she played her role as a great lady, there seems to me to definitely be some commentary on how this level of preoccupation with the upper classes is ultimately not healthy for anybody.”

Cornish-based lady novelist

We love a literary theory, so thanks to Tim for writing in with this one. “Hammond Innes' early book, Wreckers Must Breathe, written just after the start of the Second World War, involves Nazi skulduggery on the Cornish coast. About a third of the way through the book, the protagonist, a male journalist from a London newspaper disappears. His hapless editor contacts the only person he knows in the area, a Cornish-based lady novelist. She turns out to be rather good at investigating but also disappears allowing the narrative to switch back to the journalist.

“There has never been any direct link or acknowledgement that the lady novelist was Daphne du Maurier but she is almost the only candidate and I chose to believe that the lady novelist was her.” And now we are pondering that too…

The anti-Jane

Sophia wrote in with this review. “The reading that resonated most with me was to view the novel through the fate of the three women whose lives are bound to Maxim de Winter: the narrator, Mrs Danvers and Rebecca,” she said. “The narrator’s apparent transformation after the ball feels less like liberation than a traumatised young woman becoming emotionally dependent on the man who has left her isolated and insecure. Mrs Danvers, meanwhile, is treated as a nuisance to be removed rather than a profoundly unwell person for whom Maxim has any responsibility. And Rebecca’s supposed monstrosity comes almost entirely through the testimony of the husband who shot her, leaving us with very little reason to accept his version of her uncritically. Whether she was unfaithful, cruel or difficult, nothing about her behaviour could justify Maxim killing her. For me, this makes Rebecca a dark inversion of Jane Eyre: Rebecca becomes the victorious Bertha, still haunting and ultimately destroying the house, while the narrator is an anti-Jane who ends by surrendering her identity to Maxim.”

Scoreboard

Book

Dominic’s Verdict

Tabby’s Verdict

Lolita

10/10

10/10

Rebecca

9/10

9/10

For Whom The Bell Tolls

7/10

9/10

Brave New World

5/10

6/10

The Thirty-Nine Steps

7/10

7/10

Next on The Book Club

Here’s what’s coming up over the next few weeks…

  • September 8: Lord of the Flies by William Golding

  • September 15: A Month in the Country by J. L. Carr

  • September 22: American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis

  • September 29: Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë

  • October 6: Goldfinger by Ian Fleming

  • October 13: The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath

  • October 20: White Nights by Fyodor Dostoevsky

Keeping score

Dominic and Tabby both gave Lolita 10 enchanted hunters out of 10, but tell us what you think…

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See you next week for Lord of the Flies.

The Book Club Team